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Im familiar with them. I just avoided talking about it since over half the float is owned by debt holders, including convertibles. And theyre going through restructuring right now bc of convertibles/loans and low cash balance. So theres material risks to existing shareholders. Obviously upside is there, technically star coupler / plc is compelling. But not exactly idea for retail to be buying into debt holder convertibles until they finish restructuring. So just didnt want to mention although its a very interesting idea.