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Open original source ↗Is it possible that your boy meet Kevin
is just wrong and he's about to lose
lots of money? Uh yeah, uh it is. Now,
so far, I don't think I am, but what I'd
like to do is go through, humbly of
course, how we could end up being wrong.
First, let's just clarify the thesis
briefly, and then we're going to get
into some facts and some analysis, as
well as some charts around uh-oh, is it
possible? We still got some work to do.
We're going to look at those in just a
moment. So, first things first, this
morning in our alpha report, when we saw
the yield all the way up 7.5 basis
points, we argued, "Hey, yields
come down, stocks up." Really simple
argument. But, my thought has been that
we anchor around 5.27,
and that the slope or the acceleration
of the rise in the 10-year Treasury is
actually slowing over the last 5 days.
That, of course, is in contrast to the
rapid expansion that we've seen when we
zoom out over 6 months. My point is,
when we zoom into the last 5 days, we
don't have a spiky red line, we actually
have a pretty flat green line. So, that
was my basis this morning that, "Hey,
don't worry about this. This is because
of the SpaceX suckening, we could end up
seeing these yields come down pretty
rapidly." And guess what ended up
happening? They did. Intraday, yields
went from that spike, they went straight
down, and the Nasdaq went from -80 basis
points to -20. That's a recovery. So
far, everything's going according to
plan. But, is it possible it's all still
damn wrong? Is it possible that Kevin's
527 is nowhere near the peak, and we're
cooking
way higher than this? Well, yes. And so,
let's analyze this together. First,
here's a particular chart, and they make
the argument, this author makes the
argument in good old Bloomberg. They say
that 30-year yields have yet to peak.
Now, they're looking at the 30-year
here, which has also had a similar
magnitude of a movement as the 10-year
has.
30-year, obviously, much longer
duration, but both of them relatively
considered to move similarly. So,
technical studies back it up, they say.
What backs it up? We're going to look at
that in just a moment.
Basically, they're arguing, "Hey, we
still got a lot of potential room to get
a lot worse on Treasury yields." And
when I read this, the first thing I
thought was not "F this person, they
have a different opinion than me." I
actually go back to what one of y'all
asked me this morning, and you said,
"Well, Kevin, you know, what's that
potential real downside here on TLT, and
therefore, what's the high on the
10-year?" Actually, I think somebody
asked me what the high was on the
10-year, like the next place it could
end up going to. And so, what I did was
I calculated how far we were from bottom
this morning on TLT. Because when 2023,
we lost on this 25-year duration bond
ETF called TLT, we lost the 78.77 line,
which we've held once, twice, three
times, four times, five times. Okay,
five times we held it. Now, apparently,
we're at the second time losing it. The
last time we lost it, TLT had another 5%
to go.
And so, if I take what we had this
morning, which was, you know, 5.32,
and I add another 5% in there, we get to
about 5.6.
That's potentially that similar floor
where rates could end up skyrocketing up
to 5.6. Now,
that is not a perfect proxy for how the
10-year might actually move because this
is an ETF, and flows affect it, the
maturity of the bonds affect it. Again,
this is about an average 25-year. So,
point of this is not a perfect
comparison, not meant to be. The point
is,
I immediately thought, "Okay, if we're
wrong, where do we go?" Well, that's one
logical place. And what is this analysis
about the doomer saying there's actually
much more to go and people are now
running out of cash.
Yeah, I know. We're going to look at
both of these. Okay. So, the first is
right here.
Treasury's recent yield rise is far from
technical technical exhaustion, it says.
I disagree, but that's okay. I still
want to understand how I could be wrong.
I don't like to go na na na na it's only
my way or the highway, right? Yields on
30-year bonds printed fresh highs since
2020 2002 again on Wednesday and the
market's most reliable trend indicators
say the move is not done.
The 30-year touched 5.72
earlier in advance of nearly 90 basis
points just this year. Though they did
later trim much of the day's increase.
That was our Alpha report play. A lot of
people who don't know what the Alpha
report is by the way, it's basically
every morning before the market opens
up, I put together a game plan. Hey,
look, here's what's on deck today.
Here's when the minutes come out. You
already know that. Nobody cares about
that. Here's what markets expect they're
going to say. We already know that. Old
news. But here's the actual play. Here's
what I think the play is today based on
what people already know and where the
blind spots are going to be for people.
That's the Alpha, obviously. It's not
always right, but we've knock on wood
been doing pretty damn well
for for a good period of time here.
That huge yearly rise may make bonds
look cheap, but several of my colleagues
have argued they're far from oversold
and that yields are actually on track to
test 6%.
Uh and and uh and 6% beyond that. Wait,
hold on a second. Uh on on track to test
the 2002 peak of 5.87
and 6% beyond that. So, basically what
they're saying is not only do they think
we're going to test a little bit higher,
but that will basically be hitting 6%
pretty soon knocking on that door. To
analyze that claim technically, a back
test of the library of technical
indicators, blah blah blah, and
essentially they produce this fancy
indicator that suggests, "Hey,
oh man, yeah, we might actually be
testing 6% pretty soon." They said that
their study in 30-year yields is not
only intact, but it's accelerating in
their little technical analysis world. I
agree
that yields are going up, but I don't
think that they are accelerating. I
actually think they are decelerating. I
showed you the chart. I showed you the
deceleration, but that's okay. That's
okay. We can have a different opinion.
So, at the same time, these folks are
also talking about markets running out
of cash. Now, that's interesting because
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this talk about uh running out of cash?
Because, you know, that's that's a
pretty damning title, right? Uh and so,
what they argue is that repos right now
are suggesting or signaling that there
is less cash to go around. That there
has been a gradual rise in the Federal
Reserve's repo rates, which is an early
sign that heavy bill issuance, basically
the suckening, not just the Treasury
Department's suckening,
but also Elon,
Google,
you name it. Broadcom, right? Everybody
wants to raise money.
That is tightening cash that's
available. Bringing secu- uh and so,
over here we can see that overnight
general collateral repo rates traded
around 3.95% this week. So, firm climbed
to 3.9, bringing the secured funding
line in line, blah blah blah. This
indicates there's some pressure building
in the Treasury financing department,
far from a broader deterioration of
credit conditions. So, in other words,
don't panic. Like, things are going to
be okay.
But, we are starting to see at this
point that all these auctions are
starting to have an effect. And even
money that's sitting over at banks is
starting to say, "Hey, yeah. Um we might
be uh getting a little low on capital
over here." Uh now, what does that
actually mean for us? Well, for us, it
means, frankly, expect some more
volatility. And this is normal. Anytime
you get the suck going on, we're going
to get the volatility. That suck is
typically what can affect people like
Leopold, people who are heavily
leveraged. So, as long as you're not
heavily leveraged, it's typically not
that big of a deal.
And if anything, you create some
buy-the-dip opportunities. But, you
know, all these things kind of compound,
and when you get it all together, you
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this month. Now, you might be thinking
to yourself, man, this sounds pretty
freaking arcane. Like, who's looking at
these little itty-bitty changes? But,
the suits do on Wall Street because
they're just trying to understand, look,
how are people handling all of this debt
issuance? And how does it compare to how
people handled it in the past?
So, I'm going to show you that by
pulling this up on screen here.
We had the giant suckening from Elon
Musk right around here. You know, so
early June this Google raised like right
around here at the end of May.
A lot of this was relatively noise
based. You know, you could see moved I
mean if the average over here is like
3.65,
you kind of have to put a little window
in this. The average is like 3.65 and
peaked out at like 3.67
over here before the suckering it peaked
out at 3.7. So nothing unusual. Now it
does jump up because we raised rates 25
basis points. That's normal. But then we
were bobbing around over here at like
83's the idea that we adjusted from this
level to about 83.
And what they're arguing is it's
trending up even more than just this
adjustment.
And if this continues to go on a daily
basis where you really go in here and
you really get itty-bitty bitty and you
look at it like this, right? We see this
meaningfully pushing it more. They're
making the argument that there is
limited cash to continue absorbing all
of this suckering.
Is that a problem? Yes. Yes. Both of
these things contribute to potentially
being wrong on my idea that oh hey,
yields are going to peak out. We're
going to end up getting a deal with
Iran. Obviously, you know, that could be
wrong as well. We might not get a deal
with Iran. You know, I mean there was
literally just a piece in the Atlantic
and I thought this was very interesting
about Iran. Trump is considering a plan
to strike Iran before midterms. Now, I
personally think this is just a wide
open negotiation where Donald Trump goes
to his campaigns and he's like, "You
know,
we got to make sure they don't get a
bomb. You're okay with having a little
higher gas prices to make sure they
don't get a bomb, right?
And everybody's cheering and stuff.
That's Donald Trump publicly negotiating
with Iran because they see it and view
it as their Allah-given right that they
can enrich uranium.
And Donald Trump is like, all right,
well then we're now we're going to
remove the blockade. The problem is if
both just dig in, then then we're not
going anywhere. And so my take is that
this Atlantic exclusive here about Trump
is considering a plan to strike Iran
before midterms. I actually think this
is also open negotiation.
The idea is, look man, we'll just go in
and swoop you guys up within the next 2
weeks because remember, Donald Trump
needs a win before 20 days from now.
Between like October 20th and 2017, he
needs a win.
Because that will be right before the
Federal Reserve meeting and right before
the election. So the window for Trump to
get a win is the 20th to 27th.
That means he's only got about 13 days
left to get any extra bend out of Iran.
And so you think they're leaking this on
purpose? Hell yeah, they are.
Pentagon planners are weighing options.
No final decision has been made yet. I
can flip-flop at any point. After months
of off-and-on again fighting, Trump
warns that he might keep it going.
White House
and Pentagon are developing strike
options against Iranian targets that
could be exercised ahead of midterms per
two administration officials. The size
and targets of potential strikes and
whether the administration will actually
launch them are still being debated. The
plans are being developed by CENTCOM,
which is coordinating the war effort, a
US official told us. Even the plans'
advocates acknowledges acknowledge that
limited strikes by themselves would not
bring Iran to the negotiating table,
restore travel, safe travel through the
Strait of Hormuz, or lower gas prices
before the election day. But those in
favor say that the action, after months
of ease uh uneasy peace, could allow
Trump to demonstrate strength and
potentially declare some form of
victory. No, there's no chance Donald
Trump wants more strikes. In fact, you
know how we can tell that they don't
really want more strikes?
We have had 13 tankers struck in Hormuz.
Smaller strikes, but still strikes.
Over the last
week and a half, since September 29th.
How many have we counterattacked?
Zero.
Donald Trump does not want bombs flying
right now, and Iran knows it. But, what
he's doing is he's taking the strategy
of acting like these are just little
fleas. So, it's like, you know, he's
marching through the swamp, and these
little mosquitoes or fleas are attacking
him, and he's just like,
just going to pretend to shake it off
here. Pretend like it doesn't bother me.
And that's pissing off the fleas and the
mosquitoes. They're like, "Oh, what the
hell, man?
You should be responding to us. Show
some respect. Fine, we'll do more." And
he's just like,
market's up.
Yields are
okay.
I've still got some time.
>> [laughter]
>> Hey, hey Pete, tell them we're going to
throw some more bombs at them. Maybe
that'll that'll get them to lay off.
That's my take. You know, again, both of
these things could be wrong though. I
mean, think about it.
My 527 could be horribly wrong on the
tenure.
I don't think it is, but it could be
wrong. It could be wrong to the degree
of 5% like we saw on TLT, or it could be
way wrong, like what what these people,
the suits here, are arguing. I'd like to
counter trade the suits though, so I
don't think so.
Uh I also
don't think Donald Trump is going to
launch a single rocket.
>> [laughter]
>> Not a single missile uh between now and
the election. No way. It has been way
too freaking quiet. Notice that all news
headlines are about the Houthis
and Yemen and the displacement and the
destruction over there or people dying
in Gaza or Lebanon.
All those things are horrible,
but they have nothing to do
with
the United States military right now. I
mean, obviously you can make the
stretched argument, which is not really
that stretched, that
the whole Houthi situation is happening
because of the United States and
whatever. Then you can make the
argument, "Yeah, but Hamas started all
of this with it." Like we can make a
million different arguments. But my
point is
in the near-term,
the branding is
"Well, that's not us." That's the
branding. Huh?
We're sending oil through Hormuz. We're
not fighting the Houthis.
Huh? Israel's striking and uh the
Hezbollah's uh conducting uh attacks.
We're not involved. Our bases are good.
Our tankers What strikes?
We don't see any strikes. 13 strikes?
What strikes? We're not countering
anybody because we haven't been
bothered.
Now, by the way, we might ramp up
strikes.
It's all a game. It's all a game. That
and it's it is a clown show of a game.
But
look, people running out of cash
to keep funding the AI build-out,
it's a problem.
Duh.
But I think it will be ultimately
covered by more financing.
More debt. The it'll the bubble will
continue to inflate. It Let's be clear.
We we expect that this is a bubble, but
we think the party is still just getting
started. It is too damn good.
>> [laughter]
>> Party's still cooking.
Uh but again, we are now in shock
territory on the 10-2, the spread
between the 10-2. That's not good.
Uh I think so far we've been
really accurate with our calls uh in the
Alpha Report and I'm really excited
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Um
but that's going to come.
That's going to be really cool. So,
we're excited. Anyway, thank you. Have a
wonderful evening, and we'll [music] see
you all soon. Goodbye and goodbye. If
you like that video, check this one out.
I think you're going to love it. Why not
ever
>> has these [music] things that you told
us here. I feel like nobody else knows
about this.
>> We'll We'll try a little advertising and
see how it goes.
>> Congratulations, man. You have done so
[music] much. People love you. People
look up to you.
>> Kevin Paffrath, there, financial analyst
and YouTuber, Meet Kevin. Always great
to get your take.
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