This is a HUGE SHIFT
Open original source ↗The market obviously has started going
red today, giving back some of the
enthusiasm of yesterday. Should we care
and what does it mean?
>> [clears throat]
>> My opinion, the answer is
no. We really shouldn't care right now.
Why? Because a lot of this is driven by
the return of the suckening that we knew
was coming. The suckening strikes back.
The suckening returns. Elon Musk issuing
now the largest ever or seeking to issue
the largest ever debt financing for the
AI buildout. $40 billion
to buy Nvidia chips, $10 billion from
the banks, $30 billion from bond
investors. And frankly, the more
expensive we see or the higher yield we
see from bonds at corporations,
the more people are starting to scratch
their heads saying, "Hey, do I want to
invest in the S&P 500 and kind
[clears throat] of, you know, to take
the YOLO, so to speak, on the overall
market where it sits now, although its
valuation is relatively lower?
Or do I just want some kind of bond or
preferred bond with yields as high as
they are right now? Look, for example,
at the Google preferred that they did.
They did a mandatory convertible
preferred bond, which is a mouthful of
uh words. But, they were offering a
temporary 6.25%
yield that just cliffs in May of 2029.
And so, you get this preferred, this
tax-preferred dividend yield at 6.25%
from Google uh and and then it converts
into stock at a bit of a premium, which
I think it should have converted at
where the actual price is now. But, my
point is, like, equity investors are
starting to get so many more options to
invest in other things that actually
provide some yield while you wait. And
so, that's what Google pulled off this
summer is this get paid while you wait.
And so, the more of the suckening we
see, the less money, obviously, there's
available for the stock market in the
shorter term. So, it's not a surprise
that yesterday we get this news that
Elon's
looking to lead the largest debt round,
which is different from the big equity
round that they did where they raised
80 in equity plus the green shoe plus
the 25 billion dollars of debt for
refinancing some of the other debt that
they had. Put all this together though,
coming out now with 40 bill of debt, it
gives people other opportunities. And I
mean, I get it, especially if you can
come out with a preferred dude, a
preferred
>> [laughter]
>> you know, tax preferred this could
effectively be if I divide that by 60,
this could effectively be closer to an 8
to 9% interest rate for some people
based on their tax structure where they
are. It's kind of crazy. So, like that
does kind of weigh on the stock market's
ability to just keep going up every
single day. The good news is
so far, things are relatively stable. We
actually didn't get anywhere close to
our line at 748 here on the queues.
We've held stable.
Now, part of that
is because in my opinion, we are
actually getting somewhat
closer again to a deal with Iran. I know
it might not sound like that, but I
think a lot of what's happening right
now is posturing and negotiating. Look
at this. Iranian media is reporting a
60% decrease in oil passing through the
Strait of Hormuz. We have full control
of the Strait of Hormuz. So, you got the
Iranians going Guys,
we got control. We're shutting this
down. And at the same exact time, you
have US Secretary State of State Marco
Rubio says Iran has lost complete
control.
>> [laughter]
>> All that stuff, just know
noise.
It's noise, noise, noise. What matters a
lot more
is that the Iranians
are getting really frustrated. And
Donald Trump knows this. Look at this.
Iran has already made more than enough
concessions in Washington. Every time we
negotiate with the Americans, the
negotiations end in war. Usually wars
begin and then you end with
negotiations, but what America does is
the opposite. A 12-day war somehow was
preceded with negotiations and then we
ended up in war. Then we had a 20-day
war that was also preceded by
negotiations and we ended up in war.
Then we had a 13-day war
after we signed a memorandum of
understanding.
So in other words, the Iranians are
like, "What's going on here?"
And this is frankly Donny T pulling his
Art of the Deal chaos theory strategy
for making deals and frankly he's got
the luxury of time right now. The
market's looking at the suckening right
now. I mean, you could see it's
literally on Bloomberg right now. SPACEX
TARGETS MASSIVE CHIP FIRE. I WAS LIKE,
"OH MY GOSH."
EVERYONE WHO'S BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO
SpaceX knows that they need to raise
money. Okay, any
any what? Like financial statements 101
could look at the balance sheet and go
they don't have the 400 billion dollars
they need. They're going to have to
raise money. It's just a matter of when
they announce it and the stock just ran
from 145 to 176. Of course, they're
going to take the opportunity to raise
money. And so, you know, then it's like,
"Darn, the suckening is back." The fact
that the Qs are only down .6 off of this
is actually a good thing. And I think
there's a treasury reason why. I'm going
to pitch that treasury reason in just a
moment. I want you to see it on what's
happening on treasuries because it's
really important, but I also want to
explain Donald Trump's chaos theory in
terms of why he has the I hate to say
it, but the luxury of time right now. I
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about Trump, and then let's talk about
the Treasuries. So, Trump's impression
is that right now time gets him a better
deal. As Iran is suffering and getting
frustrated,
Donald Trump gets the benefit of
them calling him going, "All right, you
know, what if we loosen What if we
loosen this a little bit? What if we ask
for a little bit less? What about this?
What about this? What about this?" And
you literally have the Iranians going,
"Hey guy Hey, peace is not out of
reach."
They're on a phone call with Vladimir
Putin going, "Hey, we're fully prepared
to reach a balanced and fair agreement.
Like, we're ready. Please sign our deal,
Donald Trump." Because right now the
Iranians are waiting for Donald Trump's
response. The Iranians are like, "Please
sign. We're We're ready. Please. Like,
stop the economic pressure, the naval
blockade, the flight blockade." Some of
those have already been loosened a
little bit as a sign of good faith, part
of the negotiation process, but they're
having trouble.
They are getting squeezed from all
sides, and Donald Trump realizes this,
and this is why Donald Trump recognizes
that time gets them a better deal. There
are 27 days left before the election,
but the market broadly is up, broadly,
okay? If you look at individual
companies, a lot of individual companies
are in fairness suffering. We're going
to talk about that in just a moment.
Actually, you can see it right
here.
This was more than 40% of the Russell
3000 members have fallen more than 20%
since June, and just a week later, that
number was 51%
of Russell 3000 members are down more
than 20% since June. So, not every stock
is crushing it right now, but Donald
Trump's looking at the index level. The
market is up.
Oil is relatively stable around 100, and
the 10-year's rise is stabilizing. Now,
that's going to make me sound like I've
just lost the plot,
but let me explain that in just a
moment.
>> [laughter]
>> Okay? So, stay tuned for number four
right here. Well, the point is, if this
is Donald Trump's impression, then he
doesn't have to rush into a deal now. He
could rush into the deal between October
20th and Halloween. That would be my
guess. The final two weeks of the
election, that's Donald Trump wants the
biggest magnitude of gas prices coming
down. That's the target window for
striking a deal. It's after CPI comes
out on October 13th.
We'll have a Fed meeting
at the end of the month, so I wouldn't
be surprised if you actually get a deal
before the Fed meeting. I think the Fed
meeting is on the 28th
or the 29th. It's the 28th. The 28th is
at the presser. So, on the 20th. So,
that really means we're looking at a
deal time frame
deal announcement IMO will be somewhere
between Oct 20 to Oct
probably 27. Fed meeting on the 28th.
Ideal time frame for gas prices to fall
before the election and Fed to hold.
That would be my guess. Like that's when
Donald Trump's clock runs up. If he
doesn't do a deal here, I don't know.
There's another problem. But, I suspect
that's what's going on. Now, why do I
say this about Treasuries and what does
this mean for like the you know, breath
issue that we've been talking about?
Let's talk about that. But, first,
there's good news about bonds.
So, this is the 6-month chart right here
on 10-year Treasury yield.
It's
basically gone vertical on a on the
slope of the line, right? This is a very
big problem. The slope matters.
But, something has recently changed just
over the last few days. And I want you
to see it. But, first, I want you to be
able to compare the slope of the line
uh a little bit earlier. So, if I widen
this Dude, I hate being on preview in
full screen.
>> [laughter]
>> This is so dumb. There we go. Just like
fights me. You can see how the slope
if I kind of draw little slope lines
here, if I do a slope here, or if I even
go from here, you can see the slope was
relatively stable whether I measure here
or I measure here. This is the insane
part. The September to October period.
This is very, very bad. But, I want you
to see something good that started
happening. It's over the last week, the
slope has changed.
Look at what the slope has done since
about September 27th.
That green line is a pretty dang flat
slope.
And this morning in our course member
live streams, I mentioned, "Hey, today
the 10-year Treasury is opening up 7 and
1/2 basis points."
This market stabilizes or recovers if
that 10-year Treasury comes down. 7 and
1/2 bips is crazy for a market open.
And so, guess what happened?
The 10-year Treasury is only up four
bips right now. We recovered. It
stabilized again. That does two things.
One, it means we were right to point
that out that the market would
stabilize. That's exactly what happened
on the Qs.
But, that's just a you know, a shout-out
to what we do
in our Alpha reports in the course
member live streams.
But, what matters more and broadly is
this.
This is an inflection.
This is a change, folks. This is really
good. This means we have been going from
everybody freaking out about the 10-year
Treasury going parabolic to all of a
sudden it's flatlining.
That change in direction is huge.
Because think about this as like
a derivative. Uh the easiest way to
think about this is like let's say we're
driving a car, okay? You're driving a
car, you're going 30 mph.
All of a sudden somebody steps on the
gas pedal and you're going 70 mph. And
you're like, "Bro, this is
uncomfortable." Not that 70 is
necessarily uncomfortable, but, you
know, it's a small road, let's just say,
okay? So, it's uncomfortable. So, you're
like, "I don't know, man. This is a
little fast, man. This is This is not
good. I don't know. I don't like what's
going on with the 10-year here. This is
crazy."
Most people are still of this mindset
that, "Oh my gosh, the 10-year is so
high. It's skyrocketing."
But, if you actually pay close
attention,
these people have have stopped
accelerating. They've taken their foot
off the gas, and now all of a sudden
we're not getting thrown back into our
seat anymore going, "Whoa, this is going
fast."
It's almost like they've lifted their
foot off the gas just enough to go,
"Okay, we're no longer accelerating.
We're now just cruising." We're still
high, you know, but we're not going
through that wow, he just stepped on the
gas and we went from 30 mph to 70. That
acceleration that pushed us back going,
"Oh, this is not I don't feel good."
We're just cruising at roughly the same
speed right now.
I wrote here K peak just because in
transparency, I will gladly be wrong if
I'm wrong, but I still maintain that
around this level I I called 527 peak
Treasury yields.
Obviously, we're slightly above that
right now. But what you'll notice is, I
mean, I made that call what?
A week ago or something like that? At
the beginning of this?
What's happening is the the slope of the
line is actually flattening to that peak
call. That's crazy. Now, I'm not trying
to say, "Oh, well, you know, that makes
me right." I I don't really care about
being right. What I care about is how
can we all make money?
And my takeaway from this
is if most people aren't realizing that
the foot's now off the accelerator pedal
on the 10-year, and we're setting up
from a for an Iran deal within the next
20 days,
this little suckening bull crap from
SpaceX, who gives a flying poopy doopy,
man? This is a nothingburger. And this
is a really bullish setup, especially if
that 10 comes down. And guess what?
That's exactly what they talk about in
the Zero Hedge piece.
In the Zero Hedge piece, what they do is
they analyze uh Mike Wilson argument
from uh I don't know, where is he now?
Yeah, but he's still at Morgan Stanley.
Okay. So, uh Morgan Stanley's Mike
Wilson
they make this analysis on how many
stocks are down about the rotation,
blah blah blah blah blah.
This is not an oil shock. What this bad
breadth is is Jackson Hole, the
hawkishness coming from the Fed. But,
hawkishness coming from the Fed fades
when you get pressure off from the Iran
Treasury yield side of this market. And
that's what we're starting to see happen
now.
Yesterday, I was talking to somebody who
deals with companies that list on
Nasdaq, and they were talking about how
challenging it is right now for
companies who rely on, you know, going
public and getting liquidity on public
markets to actually list right now
because a lot of the exchanges are more
interested in doing bigger fund raise
deals, bigger deals like SpaceX size
deals, which makes sense. If you could
do an $80 billion IPO with SpaceX,
uh and somebody else wants to do an
$8 million IPO, like a super tiny IPO. I
mean, you'd have to if my math is right,
you'd have to do a thousand of those
little deals to just equal one SpaceX
deal, right? So, the big financing deals
we're getting with either big mega IPOs
or big financing deals are giving a lot
of the suckening to the big companies,
but they're hurting a lot of the smaller
companies who need that financing. It's
been harder for smaller companies.
That is an extreme way of saying as
smaller companies get hurt, so do those
little and mid-size companies, and that
could be one of the reasons why we see
market breadth at the lowest level since
the dot-com bubble. But, I suspect
that'll will reverse, and Mike Wilson
argues that as well. Wilson thinks the
bond market may be getting ahead of
itself. August CPI was firm, but the
upside was concentrated in a handful of
categories.
And they're probably talking about like
the cell phone numbers we saw. Uh but
anyway, in our view, the bond market has
potentially moved to an overly hawkish
posture in the near term.
They also, in another part of the
article, suggest there could be a move
where both yields come down and the
stock market moves up together and
simultaneously. I still think, even
where we sit now, a lot of that is ahead
of us, not behind us. So, maybe I'm
delusional or too excited about it, but
I think that's what's happening here.
And I think that a lot of the noise that
we're hearing out of Iran, about Iran,
"Oh, we're going to We're going to shut
down Hormuz again. We fully control it."
You know, that's literally what you have
right here. Look, advisor to IRGC,
"Illegal routes for moves are going to
be blocked soon."
These things come out on purpose, as
Donald Trump has the Iranian counter
response on his desk. So, it's sort of
like
"Did you fax the offer to the
Americans?"
"Yes, sir, we did."
"Good.
Now tweet that we're going to close
Hormuz."
And then Pete,
"Donald!
They're They're threatening to close
Hormuz."
What's the stock market doing? I I need
I need more of a Trump Trump impression
here. Uh
"Little Pete, the stock market is doing
just fine.
I don't care what the IRGC says.
>> [laughter]
>> I'll sign it in 20 days.
>> [laughter]
>> It's honestly just a clown show. It's
all a clown show. Uh but I The bottom
line of all of this clown show is the
market going to go up.
>> [laughter]
>> That's my take. That's my take. And I'm
sticking to it. And in the meantime,
>> Oh, man, your boy Kevin just lost lots
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>> Kevin Paffrath there, financial analyst
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